The "Will She Quit If Trounced" Thread
Ok...let's just assume that Hillary Clinton loses either Texas or Ohio today, and loses big (it's an assumption, go off the assumption).
If so...does she quit the race. Do party elders step in. Does Al Gore come down off the mountain, eat Mark Penn, and summon the powers that be to take her campaign out back and put it down?
Gimme your speculations, cause I'm curious what the rest of Ohio thinks will happen today.
And for curiosity sake, her campaign says it'll keep on trucking.
Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, said: "There are 16 remaining contests after Tuesday.
"There's nothing wrong with letting the people in the remaining jurisdictions have their say."
I think I'm going to miss Mark Penn the most..
But yea, whadya think?
I've spoken with a lot of Democratic voters who are still on the fence, maybe leaning one way or the other, but could go either way when they get in the polling booth. I think that says a lot about how good we feel as Democrats for both these candidates.
At the end of the day, I think the undecideds will break for Hillary more than Obama. Just a gut feeling -- it feels like that's the direction things are going. I think we're in for at least another six weeks of campaigning until Pennsylvania.
Obama gets my vote this afternoon.
If Hillary loses all four contest today, she will drop out on Thursday.
If she wins even one state (Ohio being most likely, but also Rhode Island) she will continue on until the convention. As I heard her point out on the Daily show - Bill didn't wrap up the nomination until June. She has a lot of Corporate Money backing her up, and with the whole Super Delegate thing, and the ability to continue throwing Mud at Barack - in her mind she thinks she still has a chance.
I think she's a crazy bitch, but I don't think she's going anywhere - Ohio has too many rednecks who think Obama is a terrorist to combine votes with Republicans who don't want our party to ever have a nominee.
FORCED OUT?
PLEASE WRITE HER POLITICAL OBITUARY AND PRESENT IT TO HER FOR SIGNING
I can't stand the orwellian double talk any longer,
its mind-numbing, a MindSnap.
just one duplicitous contradiction
she cares about Us?, she wants universal health coverage.
at the same time says black states don't matter, small states, caucus states, activists, latte drinkers don't count.
got any more examples?
She is always who she says she is?
AS FAR AS, I KNOW.....
Tuesday, March 04, 2008 Tom Brokaw: Obama has 50 superdelegates waiting to endorse
by John Aravosis (DC)
· 3/04/2008 12:02:00 PM ET
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From DKos: Tom Brokaw just announced in front of a stunned Terry McAuliffe that Obama has 50 superdelegates waiting to endorse Obama.
Watch the video here:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/tom-brokaw-obama-has-50-superdelegates.html
NBC News superreporter cites a source "very close to the Obama campaign" who says the additional superdelegates are "ready to go public before too long." If Clinton wins all 4 states today she only gains 20 or so delegates. Obama's already got a 100+ delegate lead. Add 50 supers to that and it nullifies her win and puts him further ahead and pretty much out of reach even if she wins out the rest of the primaries (which she has no chance of doing). If some of those supers were already committed to Clinton and switch (which 6 have already) it's even worse for her.
Labels: barack obama, Superdelegates
But I think the people around her want to keep their payday going and are assuring her she "can't lose". But by her Republican campaign style, her refusal to accept defeat, she's already a loser. But then, what else can you expect from the DLC team?
Regardless of what happens tonight, Obama will be the nominee. I'm not concerned about that. What does concern me is how much of the work the Clintons do for the Republicans.
She has shown she has not concern for the future of the party, progressive politics, grass roots organizing, a 50 state strategy. The Clintons have done more to help the Republicans become a national majority party than even Rove. They are content to run a campaign that only wins a few big coastal states and dismisses everyone in between as irrelevant.
The only thing Clinton seems concerned about now is ensuring Obama looses in the fall so that the Clintons are vindicated and can continue to control the pary.