Someone Explain: Ferris over Kucinich?
Submitted by thirdwaydem on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 4:05am.
District 10
Wow, I am in awe tonight at some of the newspaper endorsements for the upcoming primary. I already posted an entry about the Canton Repository endorsing Flannery over Strickland. Moments after posting that, I came across an article that pointed out that the “Cleveland Plain Dealer” endorsed Barbara Anne Ferris over incumbent Dennis Kucinich. What I thought to myself? How can the “Cleveland Plain Dealer” (CPD) endorse Ferris over a popular incumbent?
After reading about this endorsement, I went to visit Bob Fitrakis’ blog. While I do not agree with him on many issues, I think he may have hit the reason for this endorsement on the head. Fitrakis writes that the “CPD” wants to try to influence the election so that the Republican candidate has a chance of winning in November. This endorsement, in combination with a recent request on Ferris’ website for Republican voters to crossover and vote for her in the primary, make it seem like there may very well be something wrong in Denmark. While this may seem like a conspiracy theory, remember that similar “coincidental” circumstances (newspaper endorsements and calls for crossover voters) lead to Cynthia McKinney’s defeat in 2002.
Anyhow, I hope that this is all just another Fitrakis’ conspiracy theory and that there is a logical explanation. Can someone from the 10th District provide me with the logical explanation behind why the “CPD” endorsed Ferris over Kucinich? I know that there has to be one, or I guess maybe newspapers do not even feel the need to fake nonpartisanship these days.
Link to the Fitrakis’ article:http://www.fraudbusterbob.com/blog/
certain personalities at the
Submitted by JeanLR on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 10:21am.
certain personalities at the PD still carry thier grudge against Kucinich; Brent Larkin was busy during that Presidential primary going to democrat clubs to slam Kucinich~ God forbid someone from Cleveland was actually sucessful at something, those provincial jerks. Certain people at the PD resent the fact that Kucinich was vindicated by history and that they were embarrassed by thier position during the muny light thing. Suck on it PD, Kucinich has done very important work for us here in Cleveland, and for the nation. Barbara Ferris has got nothing to offer except unkind words. What could she possibly do that Kucinich hasn't done 10 times better 10 years before she thought of it~ It just goes to show that to those certain PD personalities, it is more important that they demonstrate thier political clout, and this time they have exposed themselves as the petty, bitter, little-thinkers who keep our city down. Big fish in the little pond.
It is absolutely a conspiracy theory.
Submitted by Mr. Common Sense on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 10:46am.
If anything, the editorial board at the PD is left-leaning, not conservative. Maybe they were at some point, but not now.
Ther endorsement of Ferris has everything to do with the fact that Kucinich has not paid attention to his district in recent years, especially during the time when he made his ridiculous run for President. There are times in the past when he's been effective, but it seems that those days have come and gone. He showed no leadership during the DFAS crisis, and Congressman Latourette from Lake County had to come in and find a solution. Where was the Kooch during all of that?
"God forbid someone from Cleveland was actually sucessful at something . . . " JeanLR, are you crazy? How was Kucinich successful at anything in his run for President? He did a great job becoming buddy-buddy with the likes of Michael Douglas and Shirley McClaine, but how does that help the cop in West Park or the electrician on 117th?
And if Kucinich has done such "important work" for Cleveland of late, why didn't he debate Barbara Ferris at the City Club and brag about his great accomplishments and give the reasons why he should be re-elected? For Kucinich to reject the offer to debate and give the voters an opportunity to see their candidates face-to-face smacks of arrogance. So much for being a "man of the people," Jean.
Whah ?
Submitted by staff on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 10:51am.
left leaning ? I think you missed my post of their voting history LOL.
Possibly.
Submitted by Mr. Common Sense on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 10:57am.
I may have been doing something of merit that day.
ROFL while LOL.
KMFA
Submitted by bryan on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 12:05pm.
pd is owned by newhouse -- notoriously conservative family.
You're a class act, Bryan.
Submitted by Mr. Common Sense on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 12:10pm.
Get back to the point of this discussion. Kucinich is out of touch with the people of his district.
Are you a Kooch apologist like JeanLR? Or just someone who fancies himself a political know-it-all?
definitely
Submitted by bryan on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 12:31pm.
not the former. the later. and, having lived in kucinich's district for a while, i agree he is not representative of the district. but i also know that his base of support is strong (some would say rabidly so).
besides, politics is about who gets the most votes, not who SHOULD get the most votes...
Kooch supporters are nuts.
Submitted by Mr. Common Sense on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 12:42pm.
They love wearing his shirts and have as many "DENNIS!" yard signs as Parma-ites (Parma-idians? Parma-ers?) have pink flamingos.
Thanks for the pearl of wisdom at the end there, too. Hopefully someday I'll get the hang of this politics thing.
PD is correct
Submitted by Castro_Democrat on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 12:24pm.
The PD’s decision to not back Kucinich this time around is the best editorial choice they’ve made since supporting Kucinich over Martin Hoke. It’s enlightened, controversial (papers rarely turn around on legacy endorsements), and spot-on.
Conspiracy theories are just that: if the editorial page is persuaded by their supposedly conservative ownership, then they chose a stupid premiere for their sea-change in their endorsements.
whatever.
Submitted by JeanLR on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 3:17pm.
Kucinich bashers are just not taking the time to actually access his work. Come back and talk when you have gotten a clue. http://www.kucinich.us/
MrCommon, Hopefully someday you'll get the hang of this politics thing, yes, indeed.
I like Dennis
Submitted by staff on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 3:30pm.
I dont agree with all his positions at all but at least he takes them and sticks to them and doesnt back down - that I do admire and for all his sometimes kookyness on the big issues he has been right more than wrong.
People who opposed the war from the gitgo dont get nearly the credit they should. it took guts and judgement.
Yeah, Jean, I thought you'd . . .
Submitted by Mr. Common Sense on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 3:49pm.
. . . be all over that comment like the Kooch to the microphones at a televised news conference.
I already know MORE than enough about the guy. He's done some good things, no doubt. His fight to save LTV was admirable. But he's completely out of touch with the people in his district.
Case in point: He recently married a tall, beautiful, redhead from . . . ENGLAND??? What do you think Seamus, Patrick, and Rory in West Park have to say about that??
The Kooch is COMPLETELY out of touch.
disagree on LTV
Submitted by Castro_Democrat on Fri, 04/28/2006 - 4:20pm.
I disagree on the LTV front.
The Kooch is the St. Jude of American Politics, and his fight for LTV is consistent with his ethos. Fighting to keep our regional economy focused on Industrial Era industries holds us back. Instead, we should have let LTV die once rather than resuscitate LTV 100 times. LTV is the Hackett of our economy: a long time failure that we talk about too much.
The Kooch is the St. Jude of American Politics, and his fight for LTV is consistent with his ethos. Fighting to keep our regional economy focused on Industrial Era industries holds us back. Instead, we should have let LTV die once rather than resuscitate LTV 100 times. LTV is the Hackett of our economy: a long time failure that we talk about too much.
just like the enquirer
they are both uber-conservative ed boards. both endorsed the ONE dem who will have the hardest time winning in nov (wulsin by enquirer, ferris by pd).
one difference, though, is the long-standing animosity b/tw the pd and kucinich over his boy wonderkind run as mayor. bankrupting a utility tends to get conservative ed boards all pissy (but only if you're a democratic elected official, not if you're, say, kenny lay...)