Hackett for Dann?!?


modernesquire - Posted on 21 April 2006

I attended the grand opening of the new Butler County Democratic Party HQ last night and Paul Hackett was the keynote speaker.  In beginning his remarks, he told the overflow crowd that he was here on behalf of Marc Dann who sent his regards.

Hackett never mentioned Dann or the AG's race again, but did mention that Ted Strickland is someone we absolutely had to get elected for the sake of our children and grandchildren. 

I'll write more about the Butler County meeting later, but does anyone know if Hackett endorsed Dann and I missed it?  Or am I reading too much into the fact that Hackett said he was there on behalf of Dann?

So confused......

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that would be news to me.    

"You better get politics or politics will get you" - my grandmother
"You better get politics or politics will get you" - my grandmother

 . . . but I know Paul . . . and if Dann called him a half hour before the event and said "say hi to everyone and tell them I am sorry I can't be there" . . . that is exactly what Hackett would do. 

I guess it's also possible that Dann the original keynote speaker, and Paul was a fill-in . . . call me crazy, but that's what you said he said?

 

But I thought Hackett was the keynote all along.  I actually had to write it down right then because I was kind of floored.

Dann has been non-existent in SW Ohio.  Seriously, if anyone knows he's been down this way, please let me know when cause I've seen no presence from him here.

I should also note that the Democrats had literature from every possible campaign, but one.  Guess which one?  Think trade and radiologists.....

Hackett and Dann are friends . . . Dann was the first elected official to do an event on Paul's behalf this summer (i think)
That Brown didn't bother to get the literature there, not that the Dems are turning their back on him. But that's still extremely not good. It would be one more sign of Brown's inability to project himself outself his traditional base of people who have always been for him.
Let's work together to retire Ken Blackwell from politics

Trust me, there's still a simmer hatred of Brown over the Hackett issue in Butler and Warren County.  And Hackett appearing at these events doesn't erase their memory of that.

In fact, one of the candidates for State Central Committeeman specifically mentioned what the party did to Hackett as a reason for his candidacy.  If Brown has sent materials to them, they probably wound up in the round file.

He specifically told me that he was remaining neutral in the AG primary.
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Well, I thought it was odd that he would first mention that he was there for Dann, but then never mention the campaign.  I could see he felt a little awkward and wanted to move on as quickly as possible.

He still hasn't missed a step.  He had that audience absolutely in the palm of his hand.

I also asked him what he thought about being the Elvis of the 2d District.  Apparently, he hasn't seen the Elvis-Nixon/Hackett-Parker photo comparison.  So, I pretty much bombed right in front of him quite spectacularly.

 . . . nobody reads blogs. 
Mr. Nobody.
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i'm pretty shocked at chandra's complete lack of fundraising, but i think that's because i'm getting most of my information on this race from this blog.  any thoughts on this being a rather small echo chamber?  i know this will set staff into a tizzy, but it appears that there is little support for the chandra candidacy, at least as far as donations stands proxy for support.  here, i though he was going to be the obama of ohio, and it doesn't even look like he'll pick up 1/3 of the vote in a primary that's less than 2 weeks away.  what gives?     

seen any requests for money from Chandra, and only a few for Dann. That's the problem with any toxic primary. It dries up fundraising very quickly.
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If you look to the whole report, you'd see that the two campaigns financially are pretty equal.  I think this has to do more with Dann stepping up his fundraising and his campaign since January. 

Chandra raised almost $180k by the end of January.  For some reason, his fundraising has really dropped off since then, and I don't know why.

We are a small echo chamber, but that's because we're a relatively new community in a relatively new medium for getting information.  And let's face, Ohio politics ain't that hot to most people.

that chandra had all the mo and that dann was collapsing.  i'm surprised to see that's not the case, again, at least insofar as fundraising indicates such. 

Subodh has excited people.  I see little old ladies who think he is GREAT.  He is a well-disiplined candidate, he gives that SAME damn speech 6 times a day every day, and he does it well.

I don't know if he will beat Dann.  But if you DO wnat him to win, you people should be out PROMOTING him instead of wringing you hands and whining.  Yes, he needs more money.  They almost ALWAYS need more money, espicially if they are truely a 'grass-roots' campaign. 

But it's not ALL about the moo-la if you are not a top of the ticket candidate.  Ask Russo, he helped on a race that was outspent 5-1 and still won. 

If Subodh can get up on the air . . . and by air . . . hell man . . . radio is a lot cheaper than TV . . . AND get some mail into the right people's hands with the right message . . . AND get his people on every street corner to do GOTV election weekend . . . He will win.

And whoop tee doo . . . we will have a Democrat win a Democratic Primary . . . and the question still is . . . can SC win a General Election?  Note:  He's brown. 

In my mind - that is the LIBERAL question here . . . can Ohio  . . . the PEOPLE of Ohio  . . . the I's and the R's . . . vote for a man with brown skin? 

Couldn't the question just as easily be can the people of Ohio vote for a White male Democrat? We send snoozer White male after snoozer White male up to be shot down over and over again and no one asks that question.

Chandra blows every other candidate I have ever seen out of the water. If not him, who? If not now, when? Being for equality and justice begins at home. Best man for the job and it's hard to argue that Chandra is that.

Personally I think that Chandra is just the type of dynamic candidate that can take on someone like Montgomery. His ethnicity will be an asset because it will draw cameras to him, just like Hackett's veteran status drew cameras to him. He needs free air time to win, so why not play off it? Media needs an interesting hook and Chandra's certainly got that.
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won't not vote for a guy because of the color of his skin (double negative intended).  if chandra can get his message out, people will vote for him.  he'll need money to do that.  but if he can get that money, i think he stands a good chance.  question:  where is the money?  josh mandel is running a freaking state house race and has close to $250,000 on hand!   

is there any polling on this race? 

What are you, the DCCC? 

You won't make a move until you see proof on paper that it is worth your time?

You want a poll?  Here it is:

Dann is winning.  And he will be winning.  He will be ahead every day.  But that does not matter. It matter who is ahead ON election day. 

If you need a poll to tell you that . . . I am sure the DCCC is looking for a Deputy Assistant Press Secretary to organize interns. 

i'm interested to see whether the polls are correlating with the fundraising…that’s all.  if i was voting in ohio, i believe i would pull the lever for chandra, regardless of what the polls said.  grab the xanax and the chivas and enjoy your spring weather. 

chivas

Now all I'm missing is this:

girls n guns

that one on the right. 

don't ya think ?
People are hearing about Chandra and loving him. He's been turning on people who don't even know what blogs are. I hear almost nothing abotu Dann except from a couple of email buddies who are active in the party.
Let's work together to retire Ken Blackwell from politics

I've been hearing alot of great things about Chandra, so I went to see him speak for the first time last night.  He was every bit the motivational speaker that everyone had told me about.  Like AmberCat, the only people I've heard talk about Marc Dann are Democratic Party people and a few people who awarded Dann the Backbone Award last year.  I have to say that my support is swinging from Dann to Chandra.

Hackett's Law Office and asked them what the deal was... One of his staff over there said that was exactly what happened; Dann couldn't be there to keynote, out of respect his staff was looking for a replacement, they called Hackett. He agreed to go. It's not an endorsement. The rest of what the guy over there said was basically Hackett likes both guys, etc etc, and this was just to make sure that there was someone to talk at the event.

But generally, when someone is at a political event on behalf of a candidate, they tend to think of that person as a supporting surrogate for the campaign.  I think some people may have gotten the impression, as I did, that Hackett was supporting Dann.

It didn't help the confusion that State Rep. Catherine Barrett was there on behalf of the Strickland campaign, and she has endorsed Strickland.  Incidentially, she is also a victim of democratic party "hacketting," but has handled the situation really well.

So, I think that would add to people's impression that Hackett was also supporting Dann.  Thanks for the clarification, and doing the grunt work in looking into it.

I never even knew Dann was invited to be the keynote.  It's kind of odd since our county party chairman has already endorsed Chandra.  The party itself never took up the issue of endorsement, but if it had, Chandra clearly would have won the endorsement, I think.

the word out in SW Ohio about Chandra.  I was speaking with a fellow lawyer today from Dayton who is a liberal Dem.  He hadn't heard of Chandra.  I did my best to educate him and asked him to educate others.  I know Chandra has been to events in Hamilton county, but he has to get around in Warren and Montgomery Counties, too, as well as Butler.  If we don't have the bucks to put into his campaign, at least we can open our mouths and not just sit behind a monitor chatting among ourselves.
He spoke to a class at the University of Dayton on Wednesday afternoon and attended a fundraiser on Thursday. He was well-received by the 30 students at the former.  He also got the endorsement of the Dayton Daily News which should help some too.  It would be helpful if the Montgomery county party would add their endorsement too.  Lots of local officials have their names as endorsing him, including Dayton Mayor Rhine McLin, county commissioner Debbie Lieberman, three other Dayton city commissioners, and several other officials.
I attended this and didn't get the impression that Hackett was endorsing Dann whatsoever.  He said that Marc had called him the day before and asked him to fill in for him at the event.  No endorsement was given or implied IMO.  Great speech by Paul though, I'm glad I was there.
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Normally, though, you don't act for a surrogate for a campaign unless you are supporting that candidate.  Thus, my confusion because Hackett really didn't mention the race beyond what you described.

Prior comments cleared up my confusion.  I'm just used to thinking of surrogates as supporters.  It probably didn't hurt Dann to have Hackett mention him though.  Noticed the Butler Cnty. HQ had no Brown materials whatsover.

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