OH-3 Roundup

I put an inquiry into the former Studebaker campaign, and they have confirmed that today they officially filed paperwork with the respective board of elections to remove Studebaker's name from the ballot. Studebaker's withdrawal from the OH-3 race today sets the stage for a Democratic Primary special election. The date for this primary will be announced soon.

Having formerly worked on the OH-3 race for 6 months, I know the numbers of the district. Regardless of whether anyone was sold on a Studebaker campaign before, the district is competitive. Mitakides and Carne, the '04 and '02 candidates, both posted close to 40% of the vote. However, on paper the district is a 45% race...the most evenly divided district in the state behind Ted Strickland's former seat in OH-6. On top of that, Dayton, Ohio has  experienced the second highest layoffs in the nation. People in the district are angry and ready for change.

Over the past 2 days hundreds of international media outlets have focussed on what happened with the good Dr. Studebaker and the race. A strong candidate will be able feed off the media interest in OH-3.

So, the question everyone is asking is "who'll be running in the special election." Honestly, I don't know. But I've got a few guesses, and a few hopes.
  

The A List


Paul Hackett
Everyone's Favorite Wonderboy

Earlier in the year he announced he's done with politics for now. I don't expect him to hop in this race, but if he did he would be competitive. Even in the third district he has high name recognition, southwest Ohio still loves him, and with the right support he would be able to raise enough money to play.


Rhine McLin
Dayton Mayor

Don't hold your breath here. Rhine McLin has campaigned against, and beaten, Mike Turner before. While the Mayor would make an exceptional candidate, I don't expect her to be interested in running against Turner right now. Given the fact that she would have less than 80 days to prepare a challenge, I think she would be even less interested.


Mathias Heck, Jr.
Montgomery County Prosecuting Attornery

Long rumored to be interested in running for Congress after Tony Hall retired, in 2002 he surprised many by announcing he would not seek the open OH-3 seat. Mr. Heck would make a strong candidate. He's not up for re-election this year so he could run in the special election safely.


Doug Mann
Personal Injury Lawyer

Mr. Mann has cash cow written all over him. There's a good chance he could run a self-financed campaign. Also, he has the connections through the legal community to do some serious fundraising. His name recognition is through the roof since his picture is on the back of every phone book in Montgomery County. Everybody knows "the tiger" down here. 


Francis Strickland
Mrs. Ted Strickland

Although it wouldn't happen in a million years, Francis would make a strong candidate. She's been campaigning throughout the district for her husband for months, she has the same last name as the next Governor of the state of Ohio, and she has a strong history with portions of the district. Ted used to represent Highland and Clinton counties before OH-6 was gerrymandered in 2002 and those counties still love the Stricklands. To top it off, running Francis in OH-3 would help Ted's margins in southwest Ohio. I know, I'm dreaming...


Hugh Quill
Montgomery County Treasurer

Quill ran for State Treasurer earlier during the Democratic primary. He bowed out early to save Cordray much needed funds, and earned a lot of friends in the process. Although at last check he had $150,000 in his state account, those funds would not be transferrable to a federal account. Hugh is currently not up for reelection for County Treasurer, so he could run safely.


Debbie Lieberman
Montgomery County Commissioner

Mrs. Lieberman is the sole Democrat on the Montgomery County Board of Commissioners, and the wife of county Democratic party chairman, Dennis Lieberman. Debby is well connected and could put together a solid run. She still has the grassroots contacts and support from her very successful campaign in 2004.



Rick Carne or Jane Mitakides
'02 & '04 OH-3 candidates

Moderate name recognition is built from their previous campaigns. Both managed to raise upwards of $600,000 in their previous campaigns.

Capri Cafaro
Sure, I'd take the heiress right about now.


The B List

David Fierst

Attorney and '06 Primary Candidate

Mr. Fierst came in third in the OH-3 Democratic Primary back in May with 3500 votes. David is a conservative Democrat with little fundraising potential.


Charles Sanders
Former Mayor of Waynesville, '06 OH-3 Primary candidate '05 OH-2 Special Election Primary candidate, '04 OH-2 candidate, '00 OH-2 candidate, etc.

Charles Sanders is an extremely passionate Democrat who clearly believes strongly in his views. Unfortunately, he's run for Congress in multiple districts several times throughout the years. Charles came in second place in the OH-3 Democratic Primary with close to 3800 votes. However, on the upside, Sanders has a website ready to go should he be drafted for OH-3.



Not A Chance

State Representative Fred Strahorn - Representative Strahorn would be an awesome candidate, but he is up for reelection this year.

State Senator Tom Roberts - Roberts would also make a strong candidate. Unfortunately like Strahorn, he is up for reelection.



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Interesting thing about Quill...

If Quill runs, then the Democratic Party would have to drop its legal challenge to Joy Padgett.  Your thoughts on McClin echo my own.  I would love to see her run, though.  So, I'd probably put County Prosecutor Heck on the top of the list for Congress. The possibility for puns, alone, is endless.

"Can a Democrat win for Congress? Heck, yes!"

"Can Mike Turner be defeated?  Come Heck or highwater!"

I'm embarassed that I didn't think of State. Rep. Strahorn or State Sen. Roberts.  They, of course, could abandoned their re-election bids and get them substituted as well.  But they'd be crazy to do so given the circumstances and I wouldn't blame them for sticking to re-election.

Contact Schumer and Reid

We need to contact Reid and Schumer and try to convince them to call up Hackett and beg him to run. Hackett is our only realistic chance of picking up this seat at this point in the race.

Contact Sen. Reid: http://reid.senate.gov/contact/offices.cfm

Contact Sen. Schumer: http://www.senate.gov/~schumer/SchumerWebsite/contact/contact.html

I'm not convinced Hackett is are ONLY realistic chance

Give me a reason why the Montgomery County Prosecutor can't win first, at least. Hackett has said he isn't running, especially in a district he doesn't live in.  So if he doesn't run, do we just give up the district?

Frankly, instead of writing off all the possible candidates from within the district, let's at least take a serious look at them and see who's interested there first.

I like Paul Hackett, but I simply don't think our answer to every race is him.  And, frankly, neither does he. 

Why would Schumer and Reid get involved in recruiting a candidate to run for a House seat?  Call the DCCC if you're going to call anyone.  Honestly, Schumer and Reid have enough on their plate as is.

Hackett is the best candidate

Maybe other candidates have a slight chance, but Hackett is easily the best candidate right now. I live in Dayton, and Hackett has great name recognition in the district.

I also doubt that he'll change his mind and run. However, I also thought Hackett would never endorse Sherrod.

Maybe Paul is disappointed with what Reid and Schumer did to him in the Senate race. If the call him up, apologize and offer to help, maybe he'll change his mind.

dude.

hackett's not going to run, and if he were going to run anywhere it wouldn't be dayton. come on kids... lets start fighting for candidates that are both outspoken and live in the district.

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seeing as I suppose I'm partially responsible for the whole "Hackett said he wouldn't do it" meme, I should clarify a couple of things. He did not say "especially in a district he doesn't live in." He did say. "unless I win the lottery."

It's a money issue folks... 

 

Again, Dayton Daily News quotes Hackett

Hackett, reached by phone, expressed shock at the news, and said his running in the district "makes no sense" because he does not live there.

n/b

apropos of the above, I am an ass.

Contact Schumer and Reid to get Hackett???

BBBBBBAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 Please tell me you live in Deleware. 

 

Sanders

I vote Sanders.  Paul can accomplish much more behind the scenes as a fundraiser than as a candidate in a race with 2 months left in a district he doesn't even live in.  It's unfortunate that this race is no longer competitive, but the solution isn't to overextend Hackett in a tainted race

Sanders

Charlie Sanders????...Have you been drinking??  /That's not even funny.  Have you heard him speak?  Dayton doesnt deserve that no matter how many times we blindly elect Turner.

HA

I was gonna let Driscoll slide on that one mrsony....but good catch.

Hackett, McClin, and Dennis Lieberman are OUT....

From the Dayton Daily News:

Hackett, reached by phone, expressed shock at the news, and said his running in the district "makes no sense" because he does not live there. Debbie Lieberman said she would not rule out a run, but "until we hear from Stephanie, it would be premature."

Dennis Lieberman and McLin said they would not run.

"I'm where I'm supposed to be," McLin said.

No word on the County Prosecutor.

Matt Heck would be good but fundraising?

I heard the County Prosecuter Matt Heck speak when I was selected as a Grand Jury stand by last fall. He's a great, inspirational speaker

Why in Sweet Heaven's Name...

Has no one talked about the best candidate that we never had? Jim Parker for oh03! Jim Parker for the American Dream!!!!

dude

you're right.  jim parker is the shit.
but i actually like the idea of running jane mitakides again.  she's a great candidate that got screwed over by the dccc last time around.  

Cry Me A River...

Name me ONE candidate who hasn't been screwed by the DCCC.

Jim Parker.   You have

Jim Parker.   You have gotta be kidding.   I really think bringing him out to there would cause his car to tank after his  last camapign.  I think that the best candidate left would be Matt Heck or a city council person from Dayton.    Maybe Dennis could convince old Dixie to come back into the fold.   I think she represents Trotwood and the northern suburbs and would be in Boehner's district.   I think it is a sham that the repub took the northern part of Montgomery county out as it is heavily democratic.  Oh well we will have to right a wrong oncce we take back the state offices. 

    Maybe they could convince Donahue into this one.   Anyway, I dated a woman from Trottwood and we almost married.  I guess north Dayton used to be Hungarian because she was.  I find it interesting that you have at least one group of eatern Europeans and they are in Dayton and not the Natti.

 

 Anyway I didn't mean to get off topic.  I do whish McClin would change her mind.   

no

No I am not kidding. Jim Parker would be a great candidate (see entries under, "beans, throwing", "Signs, Handmade", and "For the American Dream Motherfucker"). Your argument that you almost married a Hungarian from Trotwood who might be whistling Dixie is not convincing me other wise.

Personally...

I'm a big Doug Mann fan. Young, fairly good looking, and he can buy it...

 Bling $.

I agree Doug Mann could be a strong candidate

He has a great presence and there have been commercials featuring him and his family on local TV for years. I've known of the family for years because my son went to school with his son. I would be happy to continue volunteering for this campaign with him as a candidate.

Martin Sheen!

He's from Dayton right? And who wouldn't vote for Jed Bartlet?
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Not everything I say has anything to do with a campaign. This here opinion is pure that of my caffeine addled mind, and does not in anyway reflect the opinions of the campaign I represent.

Tony Hall

Tony Hall whose name is getting mentioned is a possible too.

Not sold on Tony

I thought he took his UN position because he didn't think he could cut it in the new Third District. Perhaps that was just my perception, but it sure seemed that way.

Looks like Tony Hall isn't eligible

If he's living in D.C., then I doubt he'll meet Ohio's residency requirements to run for Congress again. Doesn't he have to be a qualified elector for at least the preceding year up to the election?

Yeah I dunno

Wouldnt he have maintained a home in Dayton ?

Sanders

My point in naming Sanders was that whoever runs in this will be a sacrificial lamb.  But you're right- the people in the 3rd district a real candidate.  I vote for Jane Mitakides.

urgh

she doesnt impress me too much to be honest.

Mitakides ready to run...

Jane Mitakides is the candidate to beat in this race. She knows the district, has labor support, national party support, money, a built in organization, and garnered 40%+ against Turner before. Trust me, she can hit the ground faster than any other replacement nominee and make this seat a tossup.

Tony Hall has said no, as has Paul Hackett. Lets not fumble this one! 

just curious

why didnt mitakides run again this time?

might be because

she got a pathetic 37% - 8 points worse than kerry

Correction Staff

Staff, lets just be real for a minute. In 3 of the 4 counties that make up CD-3, Kerry had NO organization and Mitakides outran Kerry. And that "pathetic" 37% can be turned very easily.

Mitakides has one thing none of the other candidates have - the ability to step in and run right now. Lieberman is not as well known in the district and it will take her time to get up and running. Also, there would be charges of nepotism, because of who her husband is and what he does. Carne is a registered lobbyist who is in D.C. Do you realize how much damage that could do to Strickland and Brown?

We need a ready-made nominee and the fact is, Jane Mitakides is that candidate. She can be and I am willing to bet be the Melissa Bean of Ohio 3!

You're not selling me

I just aint buying it. Hackett and Hall and McLin are the top candidates IMHO. Then we start to move down the list significantly.

Merited not inherited

Jane Mitakides is from the district. She knows the people and she earned the right to run again.

Paul Hackett is a great guy but he doesn't want to run. Tony Hall does not want to run either, nor does McLin.

The three possible candidates right now are Mitakides, Lieberman, and Carne. Of those three, Mitakides is ready to roll.

How would you like to know we lost a chance at recapturing the House and it came down to Ohio CD-3 with an inexperienced, ill-prepared, or lackluster nominee other than Mitakides?

That's ridiculous!

Hall running in the district he represented for 24 years wouldn't cause damage to anyone. That's ridiculous.

Carne and Mitakides

In my honest opinion, I believe Mitakides is positioning herself to run for something in the future.

Back in November she announced she was interested in the state party chair's race, but she promptly dropped out and threw her support to Redfern. Not a bad move to try and build name rec. and friends.

Also, her daughter was actively working on fundraising for a state rep. candidate earlier in the year...helpful skill to have for the future.

However, Mitakides hasn't been around any of the county parties in the Third District this year...making it doubtful that she was angling for anything anytime soon. In the past year I've seen Carne more than her.

Mitakides...

Underperformed when she ran in 2004. She garnered around 38% of the vote, about 7% less than Kerry, throughout the third district. While I would love to see Mitakides in the race...she most definitely is not the "candidate to beat".

Jim parker is practically a republican

  I have met this guy as part of an organization and remember when he pushed a piece of paper into a car of a labor leader around here.  The labor leader who is a good friend pointed out that Parker sounded like a republican Pro Life, pro tax cut, anti gay.  What ticks me off was when he stood before our organization and  told us point blank that he could do much better then Hackett.  He explained that Hackett was over blown.  Plus he should lay off the cafeine.   Charles Sanders is a more appropriate choice since he already lives in the district.

Mitakides ready to run...

Stephanie, I hope you would consider Jane Mitakides. She's supports choice, supports equality, and supports working families. Most of all, she can have across the board appeal, due to her ties to the strategic communications arena and her "A" rating from the NRA. She is a consensus choice.

Most of all, she can be more than just a sacrificial candidate, but someone who is viable, well-liked, and a winning candidate.

Parker...

Mr. Block, I have to say that I was originally extremely skeptical of Mr. Parker. I figured he was the Dave Hickman of candidates, in a word; nutty. But, that slowly changed after I saw him time and again at forums across the second dist. The man was the only candidate that I saw who had a three minute standard stump, a clear message, and more dedication and fire than any of the other candidates. I loved it. To be clear, if he had half the resources of the big three candidates there, he would have done a lot better than an extremely close third place. The man works hard, and moreover, he's fun. I was joking (mostly) when I suggested him as a candidate, but clearly you are too... I mean, Charlie Sanders?

Mitakides?

I think Turner would beat her like he did last time.  It will take one of the current Montgomery county officeholders to have a chance - like Heck - or Tony Hall or Hackett.

Debbie Lieberman - Dennis's wife - and first term county commissioner hasn't turned the race down.  I'm not advocating her - just mentioning her.

One difference this time compared to 2002 and 2004 is that Turner now has a real record (lots of job losses for example on his watch and a loyal Bush voter).  Also, 2002 was a really poor year for Ohio Dems so holding that against Rick Carne probably isn't fair.  

Sanders and Fierst are not good choices. 

Bush barely carried the district in 2004, and I doubt if he would carry it today. This district is definitely winnable with the right candidate.  But the Democratic party would have to pour some money in big time.  They sure haven't given any so far this year.

This Spin Is Too Much

This spin is obviously inspired by scared Republicans or some other candidate who has a lot of talk. You say Mitakides underperformed. She ran in a district, without support from the National Party, in three counties where there was NO Kerry or party infastructure. We also know that the order of preference for the 2004 race was focusing on Debbie Lieberman for County Commission first, John Kerry second, and Jane Mitakides last.

But these same arguments were used against Melissa Bean in Illinois and Stephanie Herseth in South Dakota. They won however when they had party support.

Tony Hall doesn't want to go back to Congress. He's been there and done that. He's making money and is happy where he is at.

Why does Carne want to come back? Carne is a DC Lobbyist and that is what would hurt Strickland and Brown's image.

But tell me another potential nominee who has access to national party funding, personal funds, a staff familiar with the district, a candidate with an organization leftover in every county, an understanding of the opponent, and who cuts across all areas of support better than Mitakides?

Mitakides is the candidate we should unite behind. She ran without party support last time and did well. If we unite behind her, she will draw out core Democratic Party voters, as well as force the Republicans to defend ANOTHER House District that they had not previously planned to fight for.

woah....

What staff does Mitakides have access to that the rest of the potential candidates don't have access to?

 

You know something I don't ClarkDem?

Why attack a good Democrat?

Jerid are you a Republican or something? To answer your question, much of Mitakides 2004 staff has offered to come back. I know of a national consulting firms that has consistently beat Republican incumbents talking to her.

Why attack a good Democrat? Our party is about showcasing the best and the brightest. But our party is also about winning. Why are you attacking a good Democrat?

Lets talk reality - state your candidate and their strengths. Not intangibles such as former service, or why they underperformed, or their personality.

I help good Democrats get elected for a living. Lets talk turkey and lets keep this dialogue positive. I have not personally attacked any of the other Democrats, so why are you?

Slow down, Clark Dem!

We're glad to have your imput here!  We'd all like to see Turner out!  Let's keep the comment positive.  Jerid is definitely not a Republican.  He asked a reasonable question. Facts are facts - Mitakides did run considerably behind Kerry in 2004 in OH-3.  I'm sure Turner is less afraid of her than he was of Studebaker whom I've read was almost even with Turner in some polling.

A strong Democrat could beat Turner this year.  He's very vulnerable in the light of the economy here and the unpopularity of Bush/Cheney.  

According to Survey USA's new poll, Bush has only 34% approval in Ohio and 63% disapproval.  That's his worst showing in any state he allegedly carried. (I don't believe a majority of Ohioans supported him in 2004.) 

turner has the seat

a strong dem could beat turner, but no dem entering this race is going to be in a strong position. the studebakers probably (not sure she could have won even w/o the DV) cost dems the seat. the failure of party learders in vetting them is right up there with wilson's failure to get 90 signatures, or whatever number it was. hate to say it, but i think this seat is now out of reach.

Here's a friendly wager....

If Jane Mitakides is the nominee she'll beat Mike Turner.

So here's my bet....if she is the nominee and loses to Turner, I'll buy you a drink of your choice in Dayton or Columbus.

If Jane wins, you come to the Election Night party and buy me a drink.

DEAL?

you have yourself a deal.

while i dislike having a pecuniary interest in a democrat losing, i’d be too big a wuss not to take you up on your offer. here's hoping i owe you a drink on nov. 7.

And while...

I may have come across as a jackass to some of you, I am not really. I am intent on helping good, progressive Democrats win as well as I am intensely loyal to my friends.

BTW....I look forward to a nice rum and Ginger Ale to celebrate a much needed win.

rum and ale it is

btw, i don't think you came off as an ass. you're just doing what any friend of a candidate would do.

Let's Be Realistic

Mike Turner is a VERY strong Republican candidate because he is a very smart Republican candidate. You aren't going to get any cowards cut and run boners like Schmidt. Turner has worked very hard to keep his name out of the press as much as possible. His game plan for victory will be to simply ignore his opponent and run some touchy feely ads shortly before Election Day. If I was betting I'd give the point spread at 10 points in his favor. 

Any candidate that doesn't create the spark that will get the media to pay attention will lose by a very wide margin. You HAVE to foul. You HAVE to be SUPER aggressive. You HAVE to be innovative in your ways to attract attention to the race.

I have never heard any person in the district that wasn't a diehard partisan Democrat say anything negative about Mike Turner. I do hear a lot of people look back on his days as Mayor of Dayton with fondness after contrasting it with the state of Dayton today. Because of the incredibly weak opposition that Democrats in the district have offered he benefits from his District's lack of prosperity.

Any candidate that isn't prepared to use Iraq as a bludgeon to dramatically hammer Mike Turner repeatedly over the head with will lose by a wide margin. Personally, I will feel very comfortable ignoring any candidate that doesn't have the guts to do this since they obviously don't want to win.

So far I have seen no Democratic candidate in the 3rd that has a realistic view of what it will take to beat Mike Turner, nor the political chops to set such a view into motion.

Get real or get your ass kicked.

You have too...

Go stand on his lawn.

I'm serious.

HUH??!

8-P