Hey, Dispatch, we cite you; you should cite us...

You know, papers get annoyed when new media like bloggers recycle their materials without attribution.  You'd think they'd be sensitive to doing the same thing.

From my post on Sunday:

According to The Ohio State Constitution: A Reference Guide (real sexy title, I know) (2004) Steven Steinglass & Gino Scarselli, Greenwood Publishing Group at pg. 145, the most well-known impeachment case in Ohio history (and only one I could find quickly) was early in Ohio's history.  In 1808, the Ohio House of Representatives impeached a sitting Supreme Court justice and a Common Pleas Judge for ruling (for the first time in Ohio history) an act of the General Assembly unconstitutional.  The judges were one vote shy in the State Senate from removal of office.

Steinglass & Scarselli's book agrees with my analysis that the term "misdemeanor" in Ohio's constitution refers to the broad definition as "misdeeds," instead of a strict category under Ohio's criminal statute. 

From today's Dispatch:

The constitution says an officeholder can be impeached "for any misdemeanor in office," but that doesn't necessarily refer to a crime, said Steven F. Huefner, an associate law professor at Ohio State University, and Steven H. Steinglass, a law professor and dean emeritus at Cleveland State University. Rather, "misdemeanor" in this context refers more generically to any misdeed, and that ultimately is defined by the General Assembly, they said.

Steinglass said the most notable impeachment case in Ohio was brought in 1808 against George Tod, a Supreme Court justice, and Calvin Pease, a common pleas court judge.

They both were impeached by the House for declaring a law involving the right to a trial by jury unconstitutional, but each was acquitted by one vote in Senate trials.

Gee, I wonder where Mark Niquette and Jim Siegel got the idea to talk to these particular constitutional law scholars? 

Granted, I did just cite their book, but you'd think the paper could admit that it was this blog that brought this argument to the table or tipped them off to Professor Steinglass and Huefner's scholarly work.  Think it's just a coincidence that the Dispatch went out and interviewed these particular professors two days after we posted about them?  Me, either.

Oh, and Prof. Steinglass and Huefner, you'll welcome for me pimping your book with the most boring title ever.  I bet it's become a real hit at the Statehouse law library now.

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Why couldn't they have found the book the same way as you?

Pretty arrogant charge on your part there, Modern. Are you the only one with any decent researching skills? Given your vast knowledge in the area, you're obviously quite well aware of Professor Steinglass's reputation as one of the top Ohio Constitution experts in the state. You are also probably aware that Professor Steinglass served as the dean of Cleveland State's law school for almost ten years, and is well-known and respected in statewide legal circles. "Oh, and Prof. Steinglass and Huefner, you'll [sic] welcome for me pimping your book with the most boring title ever. I bet it's become a real hit at the Statehouse law library now." Seriously, Modern? C'mon, you sound like a four-year old.

Re: Hey, Dispatch, we cite you; you should cite us...

Ok Modern, I'm a political news junkie..ok, I confess, NEWS junkie....my radio and T.V. are both usually on during my working day. I started to comment on here a few months ago....along with a few friends....and do you know what we started noticing????? LOTS of news media were indirectly quoting BSB, FREQUENTLY! A friend of mine on here commented on a topic, and it wasn't 1/2 a day later 6 PM News their EXACT quote was used. So I am not suprised that you weren't cited. Blogs, I am finding, provide reporters with LOTS of material when they aren't feeling creative. And I notice lots of blogs STEAL content from BSB too!

Modern, you're ridiculous.

Modern, you're ridiculous. "These particular constitutional law scholars" are perhaps the most prolific in the entire state. Steinglass has probably been quoted in the Columbus Dispatch and every other Ohio paper many times. And for God's sake, it's not a fucking Diane Steele novel, so I think we can all learn to live with the title.

Who the....

Who the hell is Diane Steele?

Did you mean Danielle Steele????

 

 

 

Haha yes! Danielle Steele

Haha yes! Danielle Steele indeed.

not to pile on

but as a practitioner, i find the title of their book to be most informative. clever titles are for law review articles; but when searching through the law library card catalog to find an answer for a client, i appreciate a direct description. what would you like them to call it? if you're looking for a flashy title, wait for the dann biographies.

It was a joke!

It was a joke! It was a joke! I let my hair down for one moment for snark, and everyone gets all up in arms. Geez, people. Yes, I know reference books don't have sexy titles. Yes, I was kidding about them jazzing it up. Dammit, Jim, I'm a blogger, not a reference librarian.

seriously?

I can't believe I have to explain this, but modernesquire wasn't *actually* criticizing the title of the book. He was noting, as many would, that this isn't the kind of book you just break out spontaneously but rather it has a very specific, very legal, very boring purpose. I think there was also an ironic note to the juxtaposition of this very unsexy book and the very salacious details of the report by Espy. And CuyDem, yes, it's possible that the Dispatch reporters got their source the hard old-fashioned way, but it's also possible they didn't. Give modernesquire some credit for being the first to discuss and address this issue. If the Dispatch reporters didn't realize he had covered it first, they should have. This is, afterall, a go-to blog for Ohio politics and it's readily flipped to by many in the area between Gay St. and Main, 4th and Front in Columbus (which, for those unfamiliar with the area, includes the Supreme Court to the Athletic Club, the Rhodes tower to City Center mall (which was only included because of its lunch spots), the Statehouse, the Riffe tower, and, yes, the offices of the Columbus Dispatch.

I find that the funniest jokes . . .

. . . are the ones that have to be explained.