Dennis Kucinich On His Healthcare Vote

Let me make this clear, Dennis Kucinich annoys the Hell out of me. He likes to grandstand and make all these speeches about helping people. But when he actually has a chance to vote on something we can really accomplish, he always backs off because it doesn’t fit with own little dream world.

Last night was no exception. Here’s his statement, just in case you didn’t already know how it would read.

"We have been led to believe that we must make our health care choices only within the current structure of a predatory, for-profit insurance system which makes money not providing health care. We cannot fault the insurance companies for being what they are. But we can fault legislation in which the government incentivizes the perpetuation, indeed the strengthening, of the for-profit health insurance industry, the very source of the problem. When health insurance companies deny care or raise premiums, co-pays and deductibles they are simply trying to make a profit. That is our system."

"Clearly, the insurance companies are the problem, not the solution. They are driving up the cost of health care. Because their massive bureaucracy avoids paying bills so effectively, they force hospitals and doctors to hire their own bureaucracy to fight the insurance companies to avoid getting stuck with an unfair share of the bills. The result is that since 1970, the number of physicians has increased by less than 200% while the number of administrators has increased by 3000%. It is no wonder that 31 cents of every health care dollar goes to administrative costs, not toward providing care. Even those with insurance are at risk. The single biggest cause of bankruptcies in the U.S. is health insurance policies that do not cover you when you get sick."

"But instead of working toward the elimination of for-profit insurance, H.R. 3962 would put the government in the role of accelerating the privatization of health care. In H.R. 3962, the government is requiring at least 21 million Americans to buy private health insurance from the very industry that causes costs to be so high, which will result in at least $70 billion in new annual revenue, much of which is coming from taxpayers. This inevitably will lead to even more costs, more subsidies, and higher profits for insurance companies - a bailout under a blue cross."

"By incurring only a new requirement to cover pre-existing conditions, a weakened public option, and a few other important but limited concessions, the health insurance companies are getting quite a deal. The Center for American Progress' blog, Think Progress, states, 'since the President signaled that he is backing away from the public option, health insurance stocks have been on the rise.' Similarly, healthcare stocks rallied when Senator Max Baucus introduced a bill without a public option. Bloomberg reports that Curtis Lane, a prominent health industry investor, predicted a few weeks ago that 'money will start flowing in again' to health insurance stocks after passage of the legislation. Investors.com last month reported that pharmacy benefit managers share prices are hitting all-time highs, with the only industry worry that the Administration would reverse its decision not to negotiate Medicare Part D drug prices, leaving in place a Bush Administration policy."

"During the debate, when the interests of insurance companies would have been effectively challenged, that challenge was turned back. The 'robust public option' which would have offered a modicum of competition to a monopolistic industry was whittled down from an initial potential enrollment of 129 million Americans to 6 million. An amendment which would have protected the rights of states to pursue single-payer health care was stripped from the bill at the request of the Administration. Looking ahead, we cringe at the prospect of even greater favors for insurance companies."

"Recent rises in unemployment indicate a widening separation between the finance economy and the real economy. The finance economy considers the health of Wall Street, rising corporate profits, and banks' hoarding of cash, much of it from taxpayers, as sign of an economic recovery. However in the real economy - in which most Americans live - the recession is not over. Rising unemployment, business failures, bankruptcies and foreclosures are still hammering Main Street."

"This health care bill continues the redistribution of wealth to Wall Street at the expense of America's manufacturing and service economies which suffer from costs other countries do not have to bear, especially the cost of health care. America continues to stand out among all industrialized nations for its privatized health care system. As a result, we are less competitive in steel, automotive, aerospace and shipping while other countries subsidize their exports in these areas through socializing the cost of health care."

"Notwithstanding the fate of H.R. 3962, America will someday come to recognize the broad social and economic benefits of a not-for-profit, single-payer health care system, which is good for the American people and good for America's businesses, with of course the notable exceptions being insurance and pharmaceuticals."

So go back to your own little world Dennis. After 8 years of George W. Bush, I know enough to take whatever we can get. I just consider it a stepping stone from which we can work on the next reform. For all your talk, what have you actually accomplished?

Thanks for nothing Dennis!

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Pamphleteer of the Revolution?

It hurts to say but Rep. Kucinich is just telling the truth. I can't believe that this is the best that the Democrats can do.

Progressive activists were strung along the past 8 or 9 years that if we just get majorities in Congress and the White House then health care will be fixed.

Most of the public doesn't understand how the Democratic reforms are actually a gift to the private insurance companies. The Dems better get their act together and allow anyone to buy into Medicare or else they are going to create a generation of Republicans. 

The shit will hit the fan when 20 and 30-somethings find out that they are mandated to buy expensive insurance.

No reform is better than shitty reform.

Kucinich's state single-payer

I should add that the Dem leadership stripped out Kucinich's admendment that would have allowed states to enact single payer. IMHO, state single-payer is more important than the public option. Canada got Medicare for All at the provincial level and it was so successful that it swept across the country. The cons are always squacking about states' rights.

Dennis Is Right. The Insurance Industry Lobbyists Won!

The bill as currently written REQUIRES everyone who is working to BUY INSURANCE!!!! What an amazing gift to the insurance industry. Congress and Obama need to look at their campaign literature from last year and stop this charade once and for all. My daughter Tiffany is 26 years old. She pays MEDICARE insurance premiums. She will be eligible for MEDICARE insurance coverage in about FORTY YEARS. Eliminate Medicaid in its entirety and provide Medicare for everyone and we will be able to see real savings in health care in America. But don't worry. The Bill passed in the House doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being approved by the Senate. Keep up the fight Congressman Dennis.

The truth never annoys the Hell out of me

Well, the House health reform bill known as The Affordable Health Care for America Act was approved by the U.S. House. Known to Empty Rhetoric Republicans as the Government Takeover of Health Care and known to Dangerously Delusional Democrats as Meaningful Health Care “reform” finally passed. What I find most interesting is that the two leading proponents of the single-payer movement split their votes; John Conyers voted for it; Dennis Kucinich against. Kucinich was right. There were plenty of cowardly votes in the House Saturday night but there was only one truly brave one. The unsung hero of the night was Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich. He did the right thing and voted no. Unlike the Blue Dog Democrats and Republican votes against the bill, he did it for all the right reasons. As always, Dennis spoke truth to power and gave a very passionate and principled explanation Dennis Kucinch is the bravest man in America – never one to hold up his wet finger to gauge which direction the proverbial political winds are blowing. That I am lucky enough to live in his Ohio Congressional District and that we have a true champion of the people as my representative on the national stage brings me much political and philosophical satisfaction. The corporate interests that spend millions to influence the media and both political parties want you to ignore Dennis Kucinich. Too many Democrats unwittingly help them. I Don’t. I am not a patsy. People like Dennis Kucinich have been made pariahs by establishment Democrats. They have all been marginalized, but check their records, review their historical fortitude. Kucinich has been considered a fringe candidate and character because he tells us the truth about corporate abuses of power long before the rest of us catch up to the reality of what’s happened. If enough of us stand with Dennis Kucinich, maybe we’ll actually get real health care reform. If we don’t, maybe we don’t deserve that reform. Maybe we do deserve a “reform” bill that is not the cure for what ails the American health care system. This bill, as it is currently constructed, could make a bad situation worse. Is the House Health Care bill really better than nothing at all? I understand that many sincere progressives in the House, and outside of it, chose to back the bill as the best that could be gotten. Others supported it on the hope that flaws could be fixed in the Senate and in the reconciliation of the House and Senate bills. That a whole lot of ifs, ands or buts. Frankly, it’s a sign of party weakness and unrepresentative government as countless polling data prove that large majorities of Americans support single-payer universal health care, or at the very least a significant, robust and cost-reducing public option. If the Democratic Party chooses to separate themselves from corporatist Republicans, they would be wise to consider the criticisms of it by groups that advocate for the rights of women, patient advocates, unions and some of the most progressive members of the House like Dennis Kucinich.

Eric Massa

was the only other Democrat to vote against the "Let's Ensure Profits for Insurance Companies" bill. Our best hope is that the bill gets bogged down in the Senate and then reconcilliation could be used with only 50 Senate votes.

Why not go all the way and allow anyone to buy into Medicare? Just delete the part about being over 65 years old in the current law. Medicare for All would deliver a 40 year Democratic majority just like the New Deal was transformative.

Other than that, Kucinich's admendment must get back into a final bill for states to have the option for a single-payer system.

The Insurance Lobby is actually contributing more to Democrats than Republicans now. We'll see what good that money is in 2010 and 2012. I won't be wearing out more pairs of shoes for Democrats if the House bill is the best they can do.

Question

Do any of you honestly believe the House would even come close to passing what you want? I want it just as much as you do, but it's going to take small steps.

What we believe is what we were told.

In 2006 the Democrats had a very good year. And the cornerstones of that good year were that we were going to end the war in Iraq and we were going to get UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE on the table. Well the war in Iraq is now the war in Afghanistan where we are propping up a corrupt drug dealing government; and universal health care is no closer to reality than it has ever been. The government GIVES UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE to the poor and the elderly, and leaves the middle class to the mercy of the insurance industry. We believe we were told universal health care was on the way. We were wrong. Bill Oneill, RN

Exactly

I remember going to see Obama speak in Dublin a little more than a year ago. His stump speech railed against the Insurance Industry. He made promises to deliver. The Democrats could use reconcilliation to allow anyone to buy into Medicare with just 50 votes in the Senate. WTF! The Republicans don't seem to have problems getting things passed when they are in power.