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Contact Schumer and Reid to get Hackett???

Alan Harvard — Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:24:28 -0700

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��Please tell me you live in Deleware.��

HUH??!

Ohio2nd — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:11:41 -0700

8-P

You have too...

Jerid — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:09:49 -0700

Go stand on his lawn.

I'm serious.

Let's Be Realistic

Ohio2nd — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:51:20 -0700

Mike Turner is a VERY strong Republican candidate because he is a very smart Republican candidate. You aren't going to get any cowards cut and run boners like Schmidt. Turner has worked very hard to keep his name out of the press as much as possible. His game plan for victory will be to simply ignore his opponent and run some touchy feely ads shortly before Election Day. If I was betting I'd give the point spread at 10 points in his favor.��

Any candidate that doesn't create the spark that will get the media to pay attention will lose by a very wide margin. You HAVE to foul. You HAVE to be SUPER aggressive. You HAVE to be innovative in your ways to attract attention to the race.

I have never heard any person in the district that wasn't a diehard partisan Democrat say anything negative about Mike Turner. I do hear a lot of people look back on his days as Mayor of Dayton with fondness after contrasting it with the state of Dayton today. Because of the incredibly weak opposition that Democrats in the district have offered he benefits from his District's lack of prosperity.

Any candidate that isn't prepared to use Iraq as a bludgeon to dramatically hammer Mike Turner repeatedly over the head with will lose by a wide margin. Personally, I will feel very comfortable ignoring any candidate that doesn't have the guts to do this since they obviously don't want to win.

So far I have seen no Democratic candidate in the 3rd that has a realistic view of what it will take to beat Mike Turner, nor the political chops to set such a view into motion.

Get real or get your ass kicked.

rum and ale it is

RMC2000 — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:35:56 -0700

btw, i don't think you came off as an ass. you're just doing what any friend of a candidate would do.

And while...

ClarkDem — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:31:50 -0700

I may have come across as a jackass to some of you, I am not really. I am intent on helping good, progressive Democrats win as well as I am intensely loyal to my friends.

BTW....I look forward to a nice rum and Ginger Ale to celebrate a much needed win.

you have yourself a deal.

RMC2000 — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:27:29 -0700

while i dislike having a pecuniary interest in a democrat losing, i��d be too big a wuss not to take you up on your offer. here's hoping i owe you a drink on nov. 7.

Here's a friendly wager....

ClarkDem — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:14:06 -0700

If Jane Mitakides is the nominee she'll beat Mike Turner.

So here's my bet....if she is the nominee and loses to Turner, I'll buy you a drink of your choice in Dayton or Columbus.

If Jane wins, you come to the Election Night party and buy me a drink.

DEAL?

turner has the seat

RMC2000 — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:00:14 -0700

a strong dem could beat turner, but no dem entering this race is going to be in a strong position. the studebakers probably (not sure she could have won even w/o the DV) cost dems the seat. the failure of party learders in vetting them is right up there with wilson's failure to get 90 signatures, or whatever number it was. hate to say it, but i think this seat is now out of reach.

Slow down, Clark Dem!

Retired in Ohio — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:46:52 -0700

We're glad to have your imput here!�� We'd all like to see Turner out!�� Let's keep the comment positive.�� Jerid is definitely not a Republican.�� He asked a reasonable question. Facts are facts - Mitakides did run considerably behind Kerry in 2004 in OH-3.�� I'm sure Turner is less afraid of her than he was of Studebaker whom I've read was almost even with Turner in some polling.

A strong Democrat could beat Turner this year.�� He's very vulnerable in the light of the economy here and the unpopularity of Bush/Cheney. ��

According to Survey USA's new poll, Bush has only 34% approval in Ohio and 63% disapproval.�� That's his worst showing in any state he allegedly carried. (I don't believe a majority of Ohioans supported him in 2004.)��

Parker...

redenemy — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:16:47 -0700

Mr. Block, I have to say that I was originally extremely skeptical of Mr. Parker. I figured he was the Dave Hickman of candidates, in a word; nutty. But, that slowly changed after I saw him time and again at forums across the second dist. The man was the only candidate that I saw who had a three minute standard stump, a clear message, and more dedication and fire than any of the other candidates. I loved it. To be clear, if he had half the resources of the big three candidates there, he would have done a lot better than an extremely close third place. The man works hard, and moreover, he's fun. I was joking (mostly) when I suggested him as a candidate, but clearly you are too... I mean, Charlie Sanders?

Why attack a good Democrat?

ClarkDem — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:14:35 -0700

Jerid are you a Republican or something? To answer your question, much of Mitakides 2004 staff has offered to come back. I know of a national consulting firms that has consistently beat Republican incumbents talking to her.

Why attack a good Democrat? Our party is about showcasing the best and the brightest. But our party is also about winning. Why are you attacking a good Democrat?

Lets talk reality - state your candidate and their strengths. Not intangibles such as former service, or why they underperformed, or their personality.

I help good Democrats get elected for a living. Lets talk turkey and lets keep this dialogue positive. I have not personally attacked any of the other Democrats, so why are you?

woah....

Jerid — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:01:21 -0700

What staff does Mitakides have access to that the rest of the potential candidates don't have access to?

You know something I don't ClarkDem?

This Spin Is Too Much

ClarkDem — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:01:55 -0700

This spin is obviously inspired by scared Republicans or some other candidate who has a lot of talk. You say Mitakides underperformed. She ran in a district, without support from the National Party, in three counties where there was NO Kerry or party infastructure. We also know that the order of preference for the 2004 race was focusing on Debbie Lieberman for County Commission first, John Kerry second, and Jane Mitakides last.

But these same arguments were used against Melissa Bean in Illinois and Stephanie Herseth in South Dakota. They won however when they had party support.

Tony Hall doesn't want to go back to Congress. He's been there and done that. He's making money and is happy where he is at.

Why does Carne want to come back? Carne is a DC Lobbyist and that is what would hurt Strickland and Brown's image.

But tell me another potential nominee who has access to national party funding, personal funds, a staff familiar with the district, a candidate with an organization leftover in every county, an understanding of the opponent, and who cuts across all areas of support better than Mitakides?

Mitakides is the candidate we should unite behind. She ran without party support last time and did well. If we unite behind her, she will draw out core Democratic Party voters, as well as force the Republicans to defend ANOTHER House District that they had not previously planned to fight for.

That's ridiculous!

Jerid — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:22:30 -0700

Hall running in the district he represented for 24 years wouldn't cause damage to anyone. That's ridiculous.

OH-3 Roundup

Jerid — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:21:06 -0700

I put an inquiry into the former Studebaker campaign, and they have confirmed that today they officially filed paperwork with the respective board of elections to remove Studebaker's name from the ballot. Studebaker's withdrawal from the OH-3 race today sets the stage for a Democratic Primary special election. The date for this primary will be announced soon.

Having formerly worked on the OH-3 race for 6 months, I know the numbers of the district. Regardless of whether anyone was sold on a Studebaker campaign before, the district is competitive. Mitakides and Carne, the '04 and '02 candidates,��both posted close to 40% of the vote. However, on paper the district is a 45% race...the most evenly divided district in the state behind Ted Strickland's former seat in OH-6. On top of that, Dayton, Ohio has�� experienced the second highest layoffs in the nation. People in the district are angry and ready for change.

Over the past 2 days hundreds of international media outlets have focussed on what happened with the good Dr.��Studebaker and the race.��A strong candidate will be able feed off the media interest in��OH-3.

So, the question everyone is asking is "who'll be running in the special election." Honestly, I don't know. But I've got a few guesses, and a few hopes.
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